Why Do People Care So Much About Baby Cells?
Posted on 21. Nov, 2009 by in Q&A
babies themselves are precious lives but i’m sorry a fetus IMO is not. Why do you all get hung up over a fetus? it’s alive yet so is bacteria, skin cells, microscopic organisms, chicken fetuses. So what if it’s a human fetus. really. I don’t hate babies or people but sometimes i think people get too caught up in emotions to discuss abortion realistically.
bandycat
Nov 21st, 2009
God of the Bible killed many babies and pregnant women. Does any christian think only adults were drowned in the flood?
What about God “ripping open pregnant women” in the bible.
What about all the unused embryos destroyed in fertility clinics. They were created knowing a percentage would be killed.
People just hear something and then they all jump on the bandwagon, not even thinking about it.
If killing of fetuses and babies is OK for God, then it’s OK for us as well.
sister steph
Nov 21st, 2009
What would it say about humanity if we didn’t care about the least of our kind? I firmly believe in Jesus’ words.
“What so ever you do to the least of my people, you do to me.” I fight to protect these, the most defenseless of God’s people.
Dharma Nature
Nov 21st, 2009
The problem is largley in the definition of exactly when it can be considered to be alive, and why that definition should be correct.
For instance you might argue that only adults are truly self-aware and that it is therefore okay to kill anybody under the age of 25 or so. This IS absurd, but where do you draw the line on self-awareness, and should self-awareness be considered a factor in the rightness or wrongness of abortion?
The whole abortion issue is filled with these matters of degree, and so for anyone to say that “abortion is definitely X, Y or Z” is inherently wrong.
†Dark† †Passions†
Nov 22nd, 2009
before we had abortions, people regularily suffocated, drowned or otherwise killed babies they didn’t want–abortion is a huge improvement
momof2
Nov 22nd, 2009
hummm- because unlike cancer, bacteria it is not out to harm you. It is a living growing thing that is wanting to get out of your body.
I don’t see that the issue will ever be resolved. People were doing it in back alleys before it was legal. At least now its safe Ii guess.
I am prolife- but I am a Christian and I guess I’ve learned that God judges our actions and he gave us free will to decide.
Although I feel very strongly about it- I can’t stop anyone from having an abortion. No-one can. People still do it on their own. You can change the laws but it won’t make it stop.
I truly believe its wrong but its not for me to decide what another person does.
I don’t think I am being complacent just realistic. I think education is the key. I also think the RU486 is helpful for rape cases.
robert p
Nov 22nd, 2009
how many lived to give their opinion
dreamair
Nov 22nd, 2009
It is interesting to me that if I shoot a pregnant woman in the belly and her “fetus” dies that it is murder, but if you are too selfish to take responsibility for the life you created, then it is “just cells”.
Logic or self-justification …?
friendsh
Nov 22nd, 2009
One of the 10 commandments says thou shall not murder. So we feel that it is willful murder.
C
Nov 22nd, 2009
Miscarriage is a natural death, having a Doctor stick a needle into your head and suck out your brains while you are alive is not natural.
Murder is Murder. Murder is considered killing of another Human, a baby is a Human. Bacteria, microscopic organisms and chicken fetuses are not.
Google Abortion especially third trimester Abortion.
It is so much more than “Baby Cells”
Peace!
lundstro
Nov 22nd, 2009
Fetus is latin for baby.
Then you have the whole sliding slope arguement. Did you know that Marge Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, was an avid anti-abortionist? Not because of any later-in-life conversion, but because she saw the abhorent barbarism in the procedure.
There are serious medical effects to abortion before you even get into the legaleese of the arguement. I am more than prepared to argue abortion without emotions from a pro-life perspective.
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Nov 22nd, 2009
Emotions aside, I think many people’s reactions in this particular issue is rooted in the fact that all of us were at one point just a clump of cells or a fetus, and many wonder as to the justice of some being deprived of existence and others allowed to grow and flourish. Further, I think others might wonder that if life at its earliest stages is not carefully protected, it is only a matter of time before powers greater than an individual begin to make decisions about what kind of human life is valuable and what is not, and given the experience of totalitarianism in the twentieth century, one might have good reason to be concerned about this…
Riegan
Nov 23rd, 2009
OMG – apparently you’ve never known someone who has gone through a miscarriage!
as far as abortion, how come the baby doesn’t get a choice? how come the father doesn’t get a choice. yes it’s the woman’s body, but why be so selfish to think that it’s ONLY the woman who is involved? there are 3 lives to take into consideration – the mother’s, the father’s AND the baby’s!
crabby_b
Nov 23rd, 2009
A lot of people believe (usually for religious reasons) that those cells are a human being from the time of fertilization. And that’s fine (in fact, I’m one of them).
But where these people are dead wrong is in seeking to use the law to force others to abide by their beliefs.
country_
Nov 23rd, 2009
I agree with you. Noone cares when they use antibacterial soap, but they fret over abortion. They are virtually the same thing. Killing small cells. Once the fetus is able to live without the support from the mother, then it could be considered murder…but a zygote is not a human,
Pagan Rebirth, S.O.
Nov 23rd, 2009
You’re correct. Babies are precious, and are the only people who are truly innocent. However, cells that have no concept of self-awareness are not living beings–they are simply collections of living cells.
Thomas Paine
Nov 23rd, 2009
People also die from smoking, and some people aren’t worth throwing into a trash can–in my opinion…but I guess there are laws.
treasure
Nov 24th, 2009
check out the film “The Silent Scream”. It puts things into perspective.
Lion of Judah
Nov 24th, 2009
Yes, abortion is wrong. The Lord has said, “You shall not murder,” (Exodus 20:13). The life that is growing within the mother is a child, a baby. The Bible looks at the life in the womb as a child.: Exodus 21:22 says, “And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman’s husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide,”(1) (NASB).
The main concern of the “Pro-Choicers” is not the guarded protection of the life in the womb. Instead, the main concern is the “rights” of the mother over and against the rights of the child growing in her. The child, who cannot exercise its own will, is killed. And, in order to make the killing more palatable, the baby is called a “fetus”, or “non-viable”, or “not yet human”, etc. This eases the conscience. But, for those who say the baby isn’t ‘viable’, have you ever seen a sonogram of an abortion? You can see the ‘non-viable fetus’ retracting from the instruments of death and seeking self preservation. It wants to live. Some would respond by saying that even a rodent wants to live. But what is in the womb of the mother is human.
The Bible says for people to protect the weak and down trodden. But with abortionists, the rights of the baby are sacrificed to the rights of the mother — and the father doesn’t even have any rights. The mother cries out that the life in here is part of her body and that she has the right to do with her body as she wills.
True love does not seeks its own, but is other centered. It gives. “For God so loved the world he GAVE his only begotten son…” (John 3:16). Abortion is the ultimate in selfishness. It puts the mother’s convenience and desires above the life of her own baby. To kill the baby in the womb means to consider oneself more important than anyone else.
Even in nature, as far as I understand, animals don’t kill what is in their own wombs. People are the only ones who kill their young while still unborn. In this society of “self esteem,” “personal accomplishments,” and “empowerment,” true love is losing out and death is winning.
However, there is hope in Jesus. If you’ve had an abortion, you can be forgiven by the Lord. All you need to do is confess it to the Lord Jesus and ask Him to forgive you. That is what I did years ago when the girl I lived with became pregnant and had an abortion. I was guilty. As a man, the inner turmoil and guilt I felt was horrible. I can’t imagine what it would be life for a woman. Nevertheless, the Lord has graciously forgiven me and her. I say this only in the hopes that others would come to find the sweet forgiveness found in Jesus.
Nevertheless, the unbeliever is not convicted by the words of God. So, I’ve presented what I consider a logical argument against abortion.
A rational Case against Abortion
What is growing in the womb of the woman is alive.
Even one celled creatures are alive.
What is growing in the woman is more than a one celled creature.
The nature of the life is human.
It is the product of human DNA, therefore it’s nature is human.
Because it is human in nature, if left to live, it will result in a human baby.
Humans are humans not because they have a feet, hands, walk vertically, and speak, etc. They are humans because of their nature.
A person born without arms and legs is still human.
A person who cannot speak is still human.
A person in a coma, helpless, unaware, unmoving, is human.
What is growing in the womb does not have the nature of an animal, a bird, or a fish. It has human nature.
To abort the life, which is human in nature, is to kill that which is human in nature.
Therefore, abortion is killing a life which is human by nature.
Where, then, does the mother get the right to kill the human within her.
Objections Answered
The life in the womb is not human because it is not fully developed.
This disregards the fact that the nature of the life is human. It has human DNA and is alive. How can its nature not be human if it is alive and has human DNA?
This asserts a false premise that someone is not human until he/she is fully developed.
What constitutes full development? One hour before birth or one hour after? Is there really a difference?
Then when did the natures change? When did the non-human nature develop into a human nature?
At what point does it become human and by what criteria do you make this judgment?
If you cannot decide when, then you are risking killing a person.
The human tissue produced in the woman is the property of the one who produces it.
But if what is growing in the womb is a person, it cannot be owned.
Is the life in the womb property like a cat or a dog that can be owned?
Then when does the child become stop being the property of the mother? At birth? At one year old? Two? Ten? Twenty?
It is animals who are owned, not people — unless you want to reintroduce slavery.
If the tissue is not human, but just an organ like the stomach, it belongs to the one in whom it dwells.
But, the stomach is meant to be a stomach. The life in the womb is meant to be a person. They are different by design and nature.
They are different in nature, because the stomach does not have the ability to become a human.
But a human has the ability to produce a stomach.
Therefore, being human encompasses its own body but is not defined by it.
The life in the womb is really part of the woman and the woman has the right to do as she wills with her body.
If it is part of the woman then does the woman has four arms, four legs, and 2 heads? Is that what a human is?
It is part of the woman only in the sense that the life is living and growing inside the mother.
Her body is feeding the life. Her body is separate from the life.
The life growing in the womb can even have a different blood type than the mother. It is, therefore, an independent life with human DNA.
Not so. The Law says the woman (and man) do not have the right to take illegal drugs into their bodies.
The reason is that it supports illegal drug trafficking and…
It harms others who the user seeks to support his/her habit as well as the harm that can come to another because of the actions of the one under the influence of drugs.
In abortion, no one is hurt since the fetus is not a person.
This is simply begging the question. You assume it isn’t human, even though it is alive and has human DNA, and then pass judgment that it is not a person.
The fetus is alive and death injures it.
The fetus has the nature of a human and is injured by killing it by scraping, ripping, and/or sucking its brains out as late term abortions are sometimes done.
Then that means the mother has no feelings about the life that has been removed from her womb, that wonderful place that only a woman in her nature has.
Does this really leave the woman uninjured? Countless women are psychologically harmed when they kill the child in their womb.
Rape is a condition that justifies abortion.
Rape is horrible. But why should the child pay for the sins (wrong doing) of another? The baby is innocent of the offense and his life need not be taken because of the act of another.
If what is in the womb is human, then killing it because of the act of another would be wrong.
To restrict a woman’s right to choose is to deny her rights as a woman.
This is a self-centered reason. It ignores:
That the life in the womb is human in nature.
That the woman has a responsibility to protect and guard life.
That it puts the woman’s personal interests and comfort above the value of life of the baby.
That it is not denying a woman’s rights anymore than she does not have the right to murder, steal, or lie.
Rights come with responsibilities. Choosing to kill another is a great responsibility that needs to be taken seriously. This is why we have trials.
However, in the womb, no trial is necessary, just the desire of the mother.
There are too many people in the world.
Since when does the value of human life depend upon how many people there are? Besides, if the number of people is the issue, maybe they should start getting rid of the sick and old. Maybe they should get rid of those who aren’t intelligent or good looking. Where will it stop?
A question for those who believe in abortion and that the life in the womb is not human. Is it okay, to take a fertilized egg between a man and a woman and place it in the womb of a dog?
If you say no, then why? If it is not human then it doesn’t matter, right?
If you say no because it will become a human then you admit that it has human nature and is alive. If it is human in nature and alive, then you do not have the right to abort it.
If you say it is alright, why is okay?